Apavada Darsana Verse 1
world, which is of gross
subtle form, comes from consciousness;
it is affirmed, everything is existence through and through;
it is denied, it is consciousness through and through.
Nataraja Guru’s translation:
This world which is both subtle and gross
And what has come to be from living consciousness,
If existent, then everything is Existence;
If non-existent, then it exists as
now we embark in earnest on the Apavada Darsana, envisioning the Consistent
Refutation of the False. That means, not a Selective Refutation, as is much
more typical. We don’t get to pick and choose what to keep and what to toss. If
it’s false, it’s out.
pointed out the gist in this intriguing first verse. Gross and subtle, which
imply outer and inner, objective and subjective, and so on, are two sides of a
situation that is grounded in consciousness. Not, that is, grounded in purely
physical matter. Or not ungrounded, as with two distinct and separate forms of
existence. There is a unifying ground of consciousness and within that ground
are two primary elements. Narayana Guru defines them by their most general
characteristic of being gross or subtle. In modern terms, physical or
the verse we are not being called upon to choose one side over the other, but
to recognize the overall fluidity of life. Both sides are essential to reality,
and they blend together in various permutations based on how we look at them.
It doesn’t sound particularly profound, but being able to integrate the
apparently different sides brings a sea change in our relationship to the
world. We hardly realize how desperately we cling to partisanship.
uses a well-known arena for conflict to demonstrate the concept: belief in God.
Both believers and non-believers have a fixed conception of what God is, and
are fully convinced of the rightness of their view. There isn’t really much
wrong with this on its face; it’s when the other side of the argument is
considered wrong and yours right that the fighting starts. Nitya concludes his
argument, which we’ll look into a little later, in this way:
In both of the above cases concerning the existence of God,
resorted to the criterion of a normative idea-structure to say yes or no.
The God who is asserted to be real and the God who is denied reality are both
only byproducts of the reasoning faculty. If the proponents of this argument
had known they were quarreling only about the incompatibility of their
ideational structures—a merely semantic issue—they might have agreed to suspend
class pondered why it is we feel so compelled to mulishly adhere to our
beliefs. Narayana Guru is gently urging us to let go of that compulsion, or
what Susan called the need to cling. If we don’t cling so tenaciously to what
we think, we will discover a new freedom. We begin to live at a deeper level
than our ideology in which tolerance and compassion blossom, and kindness
simple resolution is made nearly impossible by a social structure that
emphasizes being right, of getting the right answer, and even more in not being
wrong. Wrong is very bad. We are drilled from the earliest age to correctly
agree with the attitudes around us or face punishment. Later our life
trajectory is determined by right answers to tests, so the fear of mistakes
becomes even more ingrained.
a psychological standpoint, needing to be right is a trap, a reinforcement of
our surface mentality at the expense of our deep wisdom. We presume we’re
suffering because we don’t know the right answer, because we’re confused, so we
redouble our efforts to figure things out. Usually we latch on to a half-baked
notion and before long treat it as good enough. But to me, certitude causes vastly
more suffering than simple uncertainty. It is intensely exclusive. Narayana
Guru is telling us our certitude is based on fictions, on partial ideas, so it
is always going to lead us astray. On the other hand, if we learn to accept
that our understanding is inevitably provisional, we can find common ground
with those we disagree with.
is the order of the day, however, and you will always get more media attention
with conflict over amity. Religion by no means deserves all the blame in this. Our
local alternative newspaper, the Willamette Week, ran a page recently titled
The Worlds Most Annoying Atheists. I was glad to see they saw such people as
the equivalent of fundamentalist religious types, with the best skewer reserved
for my personal bÍte noire Richard Dawkins:
Dawkins is the Donald Trump of
“new atheism,” the militant atheist who makes other atheists cringe. He’s
stopped (barely) short of calling the faithful “total losers,” but he has
equated feminism with religious extremism, and if you take offense, well, you
must not know how to think. He’s a walking argument for the idea that, if you
reject all possibility of a higher power, you might end up worshipping at the
altar of your own ego.
comparison to the loudmouthed quasi-politician Trump is apt. Most American
politicians have abandoned civil discourse, realizing that the wackier you are
the more attention you receive, and this translates into votes. It’s one of the
more unfortunate consequences of television: it’s not what you say or think,
but how you look, how attractive you appear at a glance. Your visual image. So
it is best to pick a pugnacious position and wring it for all it’s worth. This
is the exact opposite of the balanced wisdom espoused in spiritualized
intelligence, where we seek truth rather than approbation. Deb contributed a
clip from the book she’s currently reading, The
Meursault Investigation, by Kamel Daoud, about sincere seekers of truth: “I
think I can guess why people write true stories. Not to make themselves famous
but to make themselves more invisible, and all the while clamoring for a piece
of the world’s true core.” (6)
spiritual person aims for truth, where a less-concerned person aims for self
interest in one form or another. From a detached perspective we can usually
spot the charade in other people, but not so readily in ourself. We should
remember to always refer these examples back to our self-examination, lest they
exaggerate our own imbalance.
of politicians, Scotty gave the example of Judge Scalia, the Supreme Court
justice who died last week. He was regarded as intelligent by many, but his
intelligence was in the service of the most privileged people and institutions
in society, and he used it as a weapon to protect them against legal
intrusions. As Scotty phrased it, he was tenaciously opposed to a living
Constitution, although he was sworn to uphold it. I guess that’s why spiritual
people are traditionally poor: the privileged will support dissimulators and
undermine truth whenever it suits their self interest. If you intend to be
honest to yourself, you are going to miss out on the filthy lucre.
is a lawyer, and she pointed out that a lawyer’s job is to first get the facts
straight. Making your arguments is where later you bring in the fantasies and
manipulate the truth to your advantage. But if you sit with just the facts,
often a new theory will emerge from your train of thought, one that feels more
like truth. I agreed that letting go of our need to direct the course of events
opens us up to the wisdom of our brilliant inner intelligence. We learn best by
listening to the authentic inner voice that we have been trained to ignore.
Instead of tuning out good internal advice, we should restrain irrelevancies to
allow our wisdom to come through. Again, this is not necessarily a good
strategy for making a comfortable living, only for being honest with yourself
and maintaining your self-respect.
reminded Bill of the witnessing mind, where you tune out all the stuff you tend
to add to the conversation. Just stop adding things, and see what’s really
mentioned that Mike Marinelli has been conversing with me via email about a
weekly meditation group he facilitates, and much of what he’s written is
germane to Bill’s point. Note that to Mike, mind is equated with the ego, and
is not the whole mind as we try to think of it here. He talks about an idea
similar to Bill’s:
I find that most of the people
that attend my meditation are trying to use their mind to discover who they are.
They are pleasantly surprised when they are pointed to see themselves without
using their mind. It is very difficult to move ones’ identification from
the mind to the Absolute True Self. It is indescribable and therefore
very difficult to explain. I find the best way is to use Ramana Maharshi’s
enquiry method “Who is observing?” Who is perceiving?” etc, and
Most guided meditation is talking
to the mind so people think the experience they are having is created by their
mindful meditation. I like to use the term mindlessness since it shifts
this identity to the Absolute. Also, the mind in whatever context you
experience it is just a bundle of thoughts that stream thru consciousness,
constricting it to conform to what is being dictated. It is a filter
superimposed on ones’ pure consciousness but the consciousness is really never
added that the less you think about yourself—meaning the less you define
yourself—the more open you are to your true nature. The trick is that we find
many ways to think about our self as not thinking about our self, and so we
remain stuck. We have to give that up too.
affirmed that an important key is to remember that the fact or existence side
isn’t separate from us. We’re trying to decipher and negotiate, and while
defending our own interests—as we often have to do—sometimes we forget the
bigger picture, that the whole context is us, not just the part that is going
to benefit us personally. This is particularly challenging where the person you
are negotiating with is fixated on their selfish interest, but you are trying
to not be. It may feel like you’re teaming up against yourself. We didn’t
pursue this at the time, but this is a good example of a place where you can
survey the entire situation, but then realize you have to counter the other
person’s selfishness by standing up for your side. This is not purely
selfishness. The main difference is that the aim is to achieve balance rather
than inflict defeat. And that’s a big difference!
well knows that this takes plenty of self-reflection. We have to frequently
reexamine our position to be sure it remains in balance. We have to pull back
from the stream of thought in our head in order to stay on task and make
progress. Scotty added that this was a call for vigilance in action. Laziness
does not work. (Several of us can confirm this from direct experience!) He
supplied us with the quote of the day, from Joseph Campbell: if you see your
path laid out before you, know that it is not your path.
said that transparency of vision (one of our favorite Gurukula concepts)
emerges from consciousness balancing existence and vice versa. He’s right that
it’s essential to fine tune our attitude to both the gross and subtle aspects,
so that our ideas and the actual facts—Deb reminded us they are “facts” in
quotes—correct each other. Nitya agrees that this is a crucial meaning of the
It is evident that man can be affected
gross and subtle entities. Events in the gross world of objectivity and
psychological factors in the subtle world of subjectivity can in both cases
upset equanimity and even coherence. These distinctions between gross and
subtle should not be held too rigidly. Clearly, although these distinctions can
be drawn, they are in fact and in operation experienced by the same
consciousness. And both are generated by modifications of the awareness of the
consciousness. Hence Narayana Guru says, “This world, which is of gross and
subtle form, comes from consciousness.”
of a rigid dichotomy between subject and object, we have a (horizontal) pole
where they grade into each other gradually. The middle ground is not excluded.
We can still distinguish a tree from our idea of a tree, yet no matter how we
slice it both extremes exist within our consciousness.
had been talking to her brother earlier in the day about a similar subject. He
was very upset about certain business issues with a former girlfriend, and she
told him he had to subtract all his excessive feelings and just stick to the
essential facts of the problem. All his misery, which was mainly a historical
artifact from when they were a couple, was poisoning his ability to deal with
knows that if you lay out all the facts, in place of your heavy opinions a new
understanding arises, because you’ve let go of the history. Susan agreed that
clinging to your confusion guarantees you will block new solutions.
definite distinctions must be made clearly, and in others any distinction is to
some degree false, so it should be regarded with caution. Though the gross and
the subtle interpenetrate much more than we often realize, we have to be
careful that we don’t pervert reality by substituting our hopes and fears for
whatever we can know of it. For this reason Nitya adds:
When the question of conscious
awareness at the gross and subtle levels is considered, it is necessary that
one should have a proper understanding of what is truly existent and what is
merely fanciful imagery of the mind. The difference between what is existent
and what is fancy should never become blurred in our experience of events or
situations, or in our assessment of individuals and our relationships with
them, if we are to retain psychological health. This is even more important if
we are to have any hope of penetrating the mysteries of the esoteric. What is
hidden from us now will remain so if we cannot distinguish between what exists
and what does not.
This is a
classic dialectic: we don’t hold rigidly to our distinctions, meaning they can
be a bit blurry, yet the line between the subtle and the gross should never
become blurred. Put that in your pipe and smoke it!
offered that one of the main myths of popular spirituality is that by having a
breakthrough you will come to be all-knowing. Yet within manifestation there is
no resting place where you can think, “I’ve got it.” The minute you do you have
dropped your good sense. Spiritual investigation is a way of life, not a
blueprint for achieving some monolithic goal. There is no bull hiding in the
forest for you to capture. Seeking truth means being alert and alive at all
times. The minute you think you’ve arrived, you’re asking for trouble. Pride
cometh before a fall and all that.
will be returning to some of these ideas all through our study. Almost all of
Darsanamala is about “the consistent refutation of the false.” The second
darsana is named that, but it’s an ongoing process throughout. Still, Nitya
expressed some of the key points in this verse as well as we will ever see
them, so let me reprint one we discussed in detail last night:
Before the existence of a thing can be
one must first conceptualize the existence of it in order to be able to deny
it. In the subjective and objective worlds of consciousness what does not exist
cannot be said to be in a condition of nonexistence. Only after the act of
conceptualization can one say that nothing is present which warrants the
cognition corresponding to that particular concept. Such a statement cannot
arise from a mental vacuum. The whole statement therefore belongs to the
subjective world of pure concepts.
people say, “God exists,” they have in mind a normative idea and
belief-structure of what God is. They experience in their emotional life a
sense of wonder and adoration toward the concept of God, and in the external
manifestation of inner values they see a perfect correspondence with the
subjective concept. For them the one-to-one correspondence between the
normative idea-structure and the objective existential experience is accepted
as the existence and very often the proof of existence of God.
others say, “There is no God,” they too conceptualize an idea structure to use
as a criterion to verify the possible existence of God. In this they will include
such items as perfect order, uncompromising justice, a clear revelation of
absolute truthfulness, the compassionate protection of all beings, and so on.
After forming this structure and including in it other values of a purely conceptual nature,
they look for a one-to-one correspondence in the world of objectivity.
Unfortunately, what they have structured in their minds as God has little or
nothing corresponding to it in the external world, so they vehemently deny the
existence of God. Their experience is a purely subjective awareness of ideas
From this it is plain that the heated arguments whether God
exists or not are all beside the point. Yet you can lose your head over the
matter, quite literally even. Much of what moves us to agitation lies in this
same semantic category. We are called to deconstruct our certainties, which
brings us not to confusion but to openness, tolerance, and loving kindness. I
can have a belief in God that makes me a terrific person, and I can still see
that you are terrific too, even though you don’t share my belief. We might even
find we believe in the same things, even though we call them by different
over semantic issues plays out in all-too-familiar ways. Karen noted how words
like democracy and socialism are used to either praise or castigate people,
without any real connection to who they are. Or they are worn by others as
badges of pride. What they actually signify isn’t part of the discussion.
Political discourse, at least in America, has degenerated into little more than
name-calling. It’s a great way to foster conflict, if that’s what you’re after.
Nitya laments this divide-and-conquer strategy:
When the people who were
indigenous to the area called Arabia propounded the great truth in their own
language, la ilah il Allah, its
complementary truth was uttered by the seers of India, sarva khalvidam brahma. Unfortunately, these nearly identical
doctrines pronouncing the truth of one Divine Principle have given rise not to
a unity of peoples, but to hostility and bloodshed. Even today India is a
country divided against itself as the result of fanatical partisanship to one
presentation or the other of the same truth. Throughout recorded world history
terrible things have been done by man to man in the name of religion, and words
have usually been the medium used to inflame unworthy passions.
such as “democracy” and “socialism” are the expressions of hypostatic concepts
which have only a subsistential verity but which are treated as existential realities.
This type of misunderstanding gave rise to the recent tragedy of war in
Vietnam. American and Vietnamese youths by the hundreds of thousands fought,
and many died, for the preservation of hypostatic concepts. The whole
ridiculous and tragic confrontation was to decide the meanings of the words
democracy and socialism. It is not surprising that the issue remains undecided.
Guru reminds us that our beliefs are just that: beliefs. We very much want them
to be true, but we should accept them as provisional estimations. We can share
our best assessments with others who are working to understand, and then we
will get along. This is the way of peace that seers of all ages have advocated.
In a species always on the brink of madness, such wisdom can help turn the
tide, not by forcing any issue, but merely by exemplifying a peaceful and
This world, while
having both a subtle and a gross form, has come out of the Lord, who is of the
form of consciousness. In other words, it is the Lord who appears as the world.
(But) the world does not really exist. This world which is none other than the
Lord, if we should say it is real, it consists of existence (sat). If we should say, on the contrary,
that it does not exist because it still remains in the form of knowledge, it
consists of the stuff of consciousness. Because it is both existent and made of
consciousness it is none other than what the Lord is. Therefore, whether we say
the world is existent or non-existent, we have to admit that it is not
different from the Lord; this is because the world is merely superimposed (adhyasta) on the Lord who is
It has no real existence and that
which really exists is the foundation which is the Lord alone.
shared a cute comment on this one:
suppose ‘the king and the harlot’ story has a certain charm as told in parable
or traditional story-telling style. Maybe it is to calm down someone whose mind
is reeling with ‘subsistential’ and ‘hypostatic’!
shared a visual representation of the ground of being, writing “This too is a
fine visual of that essential core.
I’d love to have one installed in my home ;) http://www.ignant.de/2015/05/29/anish-kapoors-perpetual-black-water-whirlpool/.